Quality Experienced Therapists & Team

“Change is scary and it can be hard to reach out for support. Our therapists treat each client with empathy and respect to foster a safe environment. Sometimes all it takes is a listening ear, a fresh perspective, or new skills to bring about lifelong positive change.” 

MEET OUR LEHI TEAM

Brooke Bradley

CLINICAL DIRECTOR, CMHC

Sometimes life doesn’t go according to plan, and we find that our expectations aren’t always the reality we experience. Are you feeling anxious and discouraged as you struggle to see how your life can change? Imagine waking up in the morning and feeling hopeful and full of purpose and direction. It can be hard to see how to get there, but it is possible and a counselor can help guide you through the anxiety and discouragement to peace and hope. Change really is possible.

Brooke is experienced in working with children, teens, and adults who have felt this way. Using a client-centered approach she will help you feel understood and heard as you work through life transitions, relationship issues, grief and loss or whatever may be causing you discouragement. She believes that “You have to feel it to heal it” and she wants to work with you as you begin the process to healing. Reach out today to schedule an appointment and begin feeling more hopeful.

Stefanie Prosence

AMFT

When you’ve hit your limit, you can begin to feel desperate and deserted. Maybe you feel that change is necessary but unobtainable. Imagine finally feeling stability and confidence in place of your fear or discouragement. Education and experience have prepared Stefanie to work not only competently but comfortably with teens and couples. Stefanie partners with teens and their parents to support trust as well as establish healthy coping skills to strengthen self-love. Further, Stefanie connects with individuals and couples to promote honesty and vulnerability to heal what has been hurt.

Only when we are brave enough to explore the darkness will we discover the infinite power of our light.” -Brene Brown

Schedule today to get things back on track.

Alisha Cabrera

ACMHC

Sometimes you may feel like life is hard and that you’re expected to do it all on your own. In the words of Brene Brown, ” You don’t have to do all of it alone. We were never meant to.” Perhaps you can’t imagine what it would be like to feel like you manage life and all it brings. Maybe you’re not sure you have the energy to dig through it all. You don’t have to feel stuck in these emotions and thoughts. It is never too early or too late to start working on becoming the person you want to be and to learn the tools, skills, and resources you need to recognize how strong you really are. Therapy is a safe place where you can share your thoughts, feelings, and perceptions. It’s a partnership of support to empower you in achieving your goals, overcoming challenges, and being your best self.

Alisha works with individuals, couples, teens, and children who struggle with anxiety, depression, relationship issues, PTSD/trauma, and new life circumstances/adjustments. Her philosophy is individuals who have the courage to seek growth through vulnerability, and hard work can accomplish anything.

You can choose courage or you can choose comfort. You cannot choose both.” -Brene Brown

Kenzie Cottle

CSW

Have you felt overwhelmed, stuck, or like no matter what you do, nothing seems to get better? Life can feel very overwhelming and hard to manage. It can feel as if no matter what you do, nothing is going right. Imagine waking up one day and feeling like you’re able to handle it all, that you have hope, and are optimistic about the future. It can seem impossible, but with guidance and hard work, a counselor can help you and/or your family get there.

Mckenzie is experienced working with children, teens, adults, families, and couples with a wide variety of issues. Using her education and experience, Mckenzie can help you through life’s challenges. She uses CBT, DBT, play therapy, TF-CBT, and EMDR to help clients process their trauma, learn coping skills, and find the tools necessary to deal with whatever life throws at them. If you’re ready to find peace and hope, reach out today.

We don’t have to do all of it alone. We were never meant to.” -Brene Brown

Adrian Jones

MFTi

Do you ever feel like you’re stuck? Like you’re trying to make changes but the problem never seems to get better? Do you want to become the best version of yourself or for your child to reach their maximum potential? Change is hard because it forces us to step out of our comfort zone, but the good news is that change doesn’t have to be scary. Becoming your best version of yourself is possible.

Adrian feels that adapting to and facilitating change is the best part of being a therapist. He enjoys working with children, couples, and families.

True life is lived when tiny changes occur.” -Leo Tolstoy

Sabrina Ellsworth

CSWi

Are you afraid of feeling judged or not good enough? Do you feel like your problems are insignificant compared to others? If it’s affecting your mental health, then nothing is too small to work through and nothing is too big to overcome. Asking for help takes immense vulnerability whether that’s for yourself, your spouse, or your child. It’s also one of the most courageous decisions. I’ll work with you or your child to create a safe place where you can explore all your feelings and what you feel is holding you back from living the life you want, giving you your best chance to confront life, head on! My goal is for you to feel empowered and capable to manage whatever life throws your way. You can do this.

Through her experience and continued education, Sabrina believes that the power to overcome life’s troubles come from within. She does this by helping clients build up their foundation through a person centered approach, with a side of task centered problem solving skills. She does all of this in a safe and welcoming environment for any and all ages!

You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have.” -Bob Marley

Kerri Deshler

MFTi

Do you feel lost in life? Like you need direction, knowledge, or compassion to get you back on track? Do you feel like your relationships aren’t where you want them to be and you don’t know what else to try? Therapy is work but changes that we want to make in our life come from small, focused efforts every day. You can do this.

Kerri believes it’s an honor to be a part of the change process in people’s lives. She has worked with anxiety, depression, PTSD, and general life stressors with couples, teens and adults to empower them to lead a fulfilling life in whatever areas they desire to see change. She believes that there is always hope and possibilities for the future and that the right therapist can guide your journey!

Not all of us can do great things, but we can do small things with great love.” -Mother Teresa

MEET OUR HERRIMAN TEAM

Sarah Stroup

CLINICAL DIRECTOR, LMFT, RPT-S

Have you ever looked at your life and thought, “How did I get here?” Sometimes life feels hard, overwhelming, and chaotic. Maybe you just don’t where to start or you feel lost. Maybe you’re embarrassed that you can’t handle things on your own or like you don’t know who to ask for help. Perhaps you’re going through a rough patch or you’re looking to improve your relationships with friends, family, or partner. Or, maybe your child is struggling with anger, sadness, or anxiety. Imagine a life where you feel capable at handling whatever comes your way. You have everything you need to weather life’s storms. Imagine a more peaceful existence with your partner, children, family, friends, or coworkers.

Sarah has dedicated her career to helping humans across the lifespan achieve the best version of themselves. She has a passion for working with kids/teens who need a safe place to process big feelings and learn to cope with them, couples who are looking to reconnect and reignite their relationship, trauma-including betrayal, attachment, and reproductive, and moms who need space to take care of their own mental health needs. She utilizes empirically supported modalities such as EMDR, experiential, and CBT. If you’re ready to discover the peace amongst the chaos, reach out today.

“You are imperfect, you are wired for struggle, but you are worthy of love and belonging.”

Brittany Allred

MFTi

Do you ever feel that the harsh criticisms you tell yourself and hear from the world around you are discouraging? That no matter what you do it isn’t enough? You might find yourself surrounded by the negativity and feeling down or lost. Let’s find your path, your strengths, the peace you crave, and bring new meaning and purpose to your life. Everyone is capable of overcoming that voice in their head to build the life they want.

Brittany believes that therapy should be a place of refuge, where you can experience growth and healing. She loves connecting and working with children, teens, adults, families, and couples as they take on all of life’s challenges. Brittany enjoys helping clients realize their strengths and potential, while creating a space of compassion and understanding.

We can choose to be perfect and admired or to be real and loved.” -Glennon Doyle

Rich Beardall

AMFT, CFLE-P

Have you ever looked at your life and decided you needed to change your life course? Do you feel your life isn’t fulfilling, or maybe you’ve experienced some challenges whose effects are still lingering? Maybe it’s time to forgive yourself and love yourself. After all, ‘How can I love you if I can’t love me?’

Rich works with couples and individuals to help them strengthen their relationships with themselves and with their significant others. He loves working with couples and finds it his calling to help those who have lost their way in their relationships. If you are ready to move forward in your life and find the hope you’ve been seeking, please reach out today.

Jeremy Conetah

MFTi

Do you ever feel like sometimes life just keeps coming at you? Like you are trying to move forward but your wheels keep spinning in place? Do you feel like you and your family have the potential to be something great both as a unit and as individuals but you just can’t get things to click? Sometimes we just need an outside perspective to remind us that we are human, but we are capable of amazing things.

Jeremy believes that therapy should be a place of safety, trust, and healing where individuals have the opportunity to find their happiest version of themselves. He enjoys working with youth, adolescents, couples and entire family units who are trying to make sense of the things happening in their world. Exploring all aspects of a client’s life to help them understand who they are and where they come from regarding their thoughts, feelings, and emotions. He enjoys helping clients create and smash goals that help them feel secure and happy in their lives and relationships with loved one’s others around them.

“You listen to people that love you and you listen to people that you trust. Most of all, you listen to yourself.” -Coach Eric Taylor

Sabrina Ellsworth

CSWi

Are you afraid of feeling judged or not good enough? Do you feel like your problems are insignificant compared to others? If it’s affecting your mental health, then nothing is too small to work through and nothing is too big to overcome. Asking for help takes immense vulnerability whether that’s for yourself, your spouse, or your child. It’s also one of the most courageous decisions. I’ll work with you or your child to create a safe place where you can explore all your feelings and what you feel is holding you back from living the life you want, giving you your best chance to confront life, head on! My goal is for you to feel empowered and capable to manage whatever life throws your way. You can do this.

Through her experience and continued education, Sabrina believes that the power to overcome life’s troubles come from within. She does this by helping clients build up their foundation through a person centered approach, with a side of task centered problem solving skills. She does all of this in a safe and welcoming environment for any and all ages!

You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have.” -Bob Marley

Hannah Farnworth

MFTi

Are you struggling to find your authentic self? Or maybe, are you struggling to find the courage to live your best authentic life? Is it difficult to connect with family and friends and form healthy relationships? Maybe it’s your child that’s struggling with these things. Life can be overwhelming and it can be difficult to know how to navigate the emotions that arise during challenges. It’s possible to find the strength to keep going and live a life you love. Let’s work together to reach that point!

Hannah uses compassion, empathy and respect to build relationships with clients and walk alongside them. She strives to create a safe space for people to express their thoughts and get their needs met. She loves working with children, teenagers, and adults in a variety of settings. She also enjoys working with couples and family units of all ages and from all walks of life.

Be so completely yourself that everyone else feels safe to be themselves too.” -Unknown

Deborah Harris

LCSW

Life sometimes can feel overwhelming. We can find ourselves wondering how we got to where we are and feel so disconnected to the people around us but also ourselves. There are so many messages of how we should be, look, and feel that we constantly feel like we are failing. The good news is that you don’t have to always feel overwhelmed, disconnected, or like a failure. There is a way to feel confident, peaceful, and feel good about who you are.

Deborah has spent years helping teens and adults understand who they are and overcome the challenges they are facing. She also works with couples and families to join together and create supportive, functional relationships and reach the goals they create.

Adrian Jones

AMFT

Do you ever feel like you’re stuck? Like you’re trying to make changes but the problem just never seems to get better? Do you want to become the best version of yourself or for your child to reach their maximum potential? Change is hard because it forces us to step out of our comfort zone but the good news is that change doesn’t have to be scary. Becoming your best version of yourself is possible.

Adrian feels that adapting to and facilitating change is the best part of being a therapist. He enjoys working with children, couples, and families.

True life is lived when tiny changes occur.” -Brene Brown

Alisha Cabrera

ACMHC

Sometimes you may feel like life is hard and that you’re expected to do it all on your own. In the words of Brene Brown, ” You don’t have to do all of it alone. We were never meant to.” Perhaps you can’t imagine what it would be like to feel like you manage life and all it brings. Maybe you’re not sure you have the energy to dig through it all. You don’t have to feel stuck in these emotions and thoughts. It is never too early or too late to start working on becoming the person you want to be and to learn the tools, skills, and resources you need to recognize how strong you really are. Therapy is a safe place where you can share your thoughts, feelings, and perceptions. It’s a partnership of support to empower you in achieving your goals, overcoming challenges, and being your best self.

Alisha works with individuals, couples, teens, and children who struggle with anxiety, depression, relationship issues, PTSD/trauma, and new life circumstances/adjustments. Her philosophy is individuals who have the courage to seek growth through vulnerability, and hard work can accomplish anything.

You can choose courage or you can choose comfort. You cannot choose both.” -Brene Brown

Cassidy Ogletree

MFTi

Do you ever feel like nobody understands you? Or that the people you should feel closest to are the ones that hurt you the most? You might find yourself barely getting through each day, wondering who to trust, or feeling discouraged at the state of your life or your relationships. Let’s dive into those emotions and begin to understand the disconnections you are experiencing. Change is possible, becoming the person you want to be is possible, and having the relationship you want is possible. There is hope for the future!

Cassidy believes that therapy should be a safe environment, where individuals can begin to recognize and uncover hidden emotions and beliefs about themselves and others. She loves creating a warm and secure space for teenagers, young single adults, premarital couples, newlyweds, and seasoned couples who are experiencing fear or disconnection in their lives and relationships. Cassidy enjoys helping clients create and set goals for their future through finding ways to feel secure and happy in themselves and their relationships.

People don’t change their behavior when other people yell at them, shame them, or send them away to be alone. People change their behavior when they feel heard, understood, and loved. Growth and change require connection and compassion.” -Katie Hurley

Brittany Reynolds

MFTi

Is your child or teen having behavior problems at school or at home? Are they experiencing bullying or social distress? Is your child or teen struggling with eating, sleeping, or dealing with big life changes? Whatever your child is going through, therapy can help. By creating a safe and playful environment, I will help your child learn how to creatively solve problems on their own, cope with challenging situations, manage their emotions, effectively communicate with adults and peers, as well as increase self esteem and self confidence. Despite the challenges your family and children are facing, finding peace, joy and confidence is possible.

Brittany has a unique ability to connect with her clients and uses a compassionate and empathetic environment to help clients feel safe and secure. She believes that everyone is capable of change, and that growth happens through realizing your own strength and potential, exploring your emotions, and building positive relationships. She enjoys working with all types of clients, but specializes in therapy with children and adolescents.

Greg Rodgers

CMHC

Do you ever feel lost or directionless in life? Or perhaps so overwhelmed with emotions or thoughts that you are unsure of how to move forward? Maybe you have tried on your own to manage issues with little success? At times life can be very difficult to manage. There is hope. You can achieve a meaningful, purposeful, fulfilling life. Through therapy we can provide you a safe environment to work through what holds you back from moving forward in your life, help you determine a direction to go, and accomplish goals that move you toward that meaningful, purposeful, fulfilling life.

Greg is experienced in working with teens, young adults, and parents with a wide variety of issues. He uses a combination of several different approaches including ACT, SFT, Person-centered, narrative, and is trauma informed in all his work. He believes that by managing unhelpful thoughts and feelings, people can focus on living the life they want. If you are interested in working to improve your mental health and moving forward, please reach out today.

Johnathon Peterson

CHMC Intern

Feeling like life is throwing you curveballs lately? Do you want to feel like you are capable of working through a problem or tough situation? Do you feel like you’re drowning in uncertainty, big emotions, or like nothing you do seems to help? I believe a lot of people come to therapy because they have limited knowledge or resources of how to address the problems that they are experiencing. My goal is to help facilitate that knowledge and point them in the right direction to gain those resources to better their life, allow them to become independent, and foster coping strategies. I believe that change comes from within and that everyone is capable of it. I also believe that any problem can be worked through and that sometimes, our thoughts, beliefs, and emotions get away from us causing us to be more disturbed by our perceptions of events than the actual event itself.

My goal is to help facilitate that knowledge and point people in the right direction to gain those resources to better their life, allow them to become independent, and foster coping strategies. I tend to lean towards CBT, DBT, and person-centered approaches. Witnessing those people make that progress has made me want to be the most effective counselor I can be and give people an environment where they can thrive and feel safe in. I love connecting with others and feel honored when I’m able to be a part of their journey of self-discovery and healing.

Haley Todd

CSW

Do you feel disconnected? From your child? Your spouse? Your family? Your life? Yourself? We as individuals and a society often lack connection in our lives and even more so in our relationships. Finding personal connections can help to increase your happiness and success while developing positive habits in your life and with your family. Haley believes that fostering these connections leads to healing.

Haley has excellent education and experience working with children and families. She strives to assist families with their relationships as a whole as well as through individualized growth through a variety of interventions in order to help bring hope and excitement into their lives. Haley encourages relationships between children and their families to be FUN allowing for greater strength, bonding and lasting change.

MEET OUR SOUTH JORDAN TEAM

James Montgomery

Clinical Director, ACMHC

It would seem that the only thing guaranteed in life is change. Change can come in the form of major life adjustments such as employment, loss, deployments, school, moves, and a variety of other things that can turn our world upside down. Change, regardless of positive or negative can cause a mixture of stressful emotions. It doesn’t discriminate from person to person. It can leave you feeling lost, hopeless, confused, and even angry. What is important to remember is that you are not alone, and there is support to help you navigate through life’s curve-balls.

James utilizes his education, personal and professional experience to help teenagers and adults traverse through the obstacles in life in order to regain balance and control over those things within their own reach. James utilizes CBT, ACT, Solution-Focused Therapy, and Person-Centered Therapy to help Clients learn the effective coping skills and tools necessary to achieve their desired results. James believes that every person deserves the opportunity to be the best version of themselves possible.

Jessie Ampuero

Spanish Team Lead, AMFT

Do you ever feel unhappy, and disconnected from yourself and the people you love? Has anxiety, depression, family troubles, or marital issues taken over your happiness or your everyday life? At times, life can become overwhelming and painful and you may feel stuck. Have you ever envisioned strengthening your relationships or achieving the self growth you desire? There is hope. Life does not have to stay that way, and you don’t have to stay stuck.

Jessie believes that everyone is worthy of love and belonging, and that everyone has their own stories and journeys. She is passionate about learning, and helping people find their inner connection, and self-love. She enjoys working with children, teens, adults, couples, and families.

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Shannon Higham

MFTi

Life can be tough. It can feel impossible to know how to take that first step in the right direction and where to turn for support. Whether you’re feeling worried, overwhelmed, hurt, or even unloved, you want to be valued. Let’s answer your questions and find the peace you are searching for.

Shannon offers a warm empathetic space to feel safe and be heard. She is always collaborating with her clients to find the solutions that work for them. She enjoys working with children, adolescents, couples, and families.

I am no longer accepting the things I can not change. I am changing the things that I can not accept.” -Angela Davis

Kira Knobel

Kira Knobel

ACMHC

Do you want to live a fulfilling and happy life? Are you wanting to feel like life’s struggles are easier to manage or that they’re productive in some way? As people work through problems, struggles and situations, they uncover a part of themselves that leads to empowerment and self discovery. Sometimes insights and experiences from others help us create change in ourselves and while the journey is individual, you don’t have to do it alone. No matter your abilities or life situation, I’ll work to help you or your child understand the story of life and provide a safe place for growth and healing to take place.

Kira’s own journey of understanding her story and behaviors led her to a career change in mental health counseling. The support and learning she experienced showed her that change and healing are possible. As a counselor, she strives to be that support to help others through their journey. As a former special education teacher of 12 years, she has a passion for helping kids and parents reach their fullest potential. She utilizes modalities such as person-centered, CBT, Lifespan Integration, and family systems.

There are no limits to what you can accomplish, except the limits you place on your own thinking. ~ Brian Tracy

MEET OUR ONLINE THERAPY/TELEHEALTH TEAM

Sabrina Ellsworth

CSWi

Are you afraid of feeling judged or not good enough? Do you feel like your problems are insignificant compared to others? If it’s affecting your mental health, then nothing is too small to work through and nothing is too big to overcome. Asking for help takes immense vulnerability whether that’s for yourself, your spouse, or your child. It’s also one of the most courageous decisions. I’ll work with you or your child to create a safe place where you can explore all your feelings and what you feel is holding you back from living the life you want, giving you your best chance to confront life, head on! My goal is for you to feel empowered and capable to manage whatever life throws your way. You can do this.

Through her experience and continued education, Sabrina believes that the power to overcome life’s troubles come from within. She does this by helping clients build up their foundation through a person centered approach, with a side of task centered problem solving skills. She does all of this in a safe and welcoming environment for any and all ages!

You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have.” -Bob Marley

LeeAnne Davies

LCSW

There’s just no sugar-coating it, life can be really hard sometimes. Do you ever feel frustrated with the direction your life is currently headed? Do you sometimes feel stuck or lost? What about completely hopeless, anxious, or overwhelmed? These feelings do not need to control your life. You deserve to feel confident, self-assured, and unburdened by hopelessness or overwhelm. Visualize your daily life without the weight of these unnecessary burdens and moving forward with self-assurance, optimism and determination.

LeeAnne has spent years working with teens and adults who have faced similar struggles in their own lives. She firmly believes that people start healing the moment they feel heard and as Helen Keller once said, “Although the world is full of suffering, it is also full of overcoming it.” If you are ready to start your journey towards self-discovery and empowerment, please reach out today.

Valerie Drew

LFMT

Growing up, we all imagine and dream about what life will be like when we “grow up” but no one tells you how overwhelming and challenging life can be. Whether or not we try to plan all aspects in our lives, we are often faced with different stressors and we just go along doing the best we can. You are not alone if you experience feeling stressed or overwhelmed with what may seem like everyday life. Maybe you are looking for help to manage your emotions or your child is currently struggling with their own emotions. Maybe you are seeking help to create or strengthen relationships with family and friends. It can be difficult to reach out and ask for help, but you are taking the first crucial step in making changes to have the life you deserve.

Valerie has a deep passion working with kids, teens, adults, couples, and families to empower them to be the best versions of themselves. She believes everyone deserves to have the life they envision and is here to help provide help and support in making those changes. Valerie uses empirically supported modalities of treatment such as, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, EMDR, Experiential Therapy and Solution Focused Therapy.

“The secret to change is to focus all of your energy not on fighting the old, but on building the new” -Socrates

Randy Johnson

M.A., LMFT, T.H.M.

Do you feel like life is holding you back, like there are obstacles being thrown at you every step of the way? Do you want to feel empowered and have the confidence to be able to manage whatever comes your way? Life is rarely what we hope it to be–a smooth trajectory, but rather life is like a roller coaster with it’s ups and downs, twists and turns but with the right skills and therapeutic support, you can live a more productive, happier life. When you learn to think differently, eliminating self-defeating behaviors, and implement sound psychological principles, you can feel empowered to manage your life, your way.

Randy is an expert at overcoming the odds. He is committed to helping others overcome their barriers and empower them to transform their life. Randy is passionate about helping people find the results they want whether that is working with individuals, couples, or families. He draws from several techniques to help clients become the best person, spouse, or parent they can become.

Dawn Talbot

AMFT

Asking for help is one of the hardest things we have to do as humans. When we are at what feels like our lowest point, it feels even harder. Sometimes life can feel overwhelming with expectations that are put on us by others and ourselves. It can be confusing, painful, and lonely. No matter what challenges you may be facing in your life right now, you don’t have to face them alone. Imagine what your life would look like if you regained your sense of self, and had the strength to face and overcome these challenges. Together, we can work to find the clarity and balance that you are seeking.

Dawn works with children, teens, couples, and families, helping them to reclaim their lives through the difficult times they are facing.

Life is not what it’s supposed to be. It’s what it is. The way you cope with it is what makes the difference.” -Virgina Satir

Reach out today to get the support you need to make the positive lasting change you want and deserve.

MEET OUR ADMIN TEAM

Lexi Anderson

CLINICAL COORDINATOR, BSW

Lexi Anderson offers administrative support to both clients and clinicians. She is passionate about helping empower people to live as vibrantly and happily as possible. Lexi recently graduated from Utah State University with her bachelor’s in Social Work and a double minor in Sociology and Criminal Justice. Her experience lies primarily in working with people who struggle with addiction, and she hopes to eventually make her way back to working with that population again in the future – only next time with her Masters in Social Work.  .

Katie Seely

BILLING COORDINATOR

Katie Seely is invested in helping people get quality mental health care because she has seen the benefits in her own life and marriage. She is hungry for information and tools to make this whole “adulting” thing much easier, and even enjoyable. When she is not calling insurance companies to make sure your claims get paid, she can be found deep in a self-improvement book, building lego and wrestling with her three wild boys, or out on a long run to clear her head. Or maybe she is just hiding in the car in the garage and eating all of the candy in her secret stash.

Tylor Pilcher

CLIENT COORDINATOR

Tylor Pilcher is the Client Coordinator for both the Lehi and Herriman offices. He strives to provide a friendly and streamlined service for both clients and staff. Tylor believes therapy is the first step in the process of discovering inner peace, self-growth, and healing. Through therapy, one discovers that the tools and skills needed for a more fulfilling life are already within your possession. Passionate about the arts and highly involved in the LGBTQ community, he loves working to help those who want to help better themselves.